AHOY,
update; 04/05/13 17:32 hours; I have now posted an edited version of the transcript to the show and my comments. See text below in green highlighter.
Also today's Democracy now show is just as important to see. It's all about the so called "wild, wild west internet" and so called Free Press.
I did not post a link do to the fact tomorrow it well just lead you to the main page.
Update; 04/01/13 how ironic lol I start my counter posting to all these "official revealed facts" on "April fools" day, i.e. no bodies playing me for a fool.
I'm not saying, I have it all figured out, I am saying I don't buy the "official revealed facts". And I'm "spiff balling" about what the "Actual Kings Truth" might be.
Here is the link, to the Democracy now show, its about Col. Steele and company, in yet another "enterprise" imo, LOL, and like I have said, its always those same "usual suspects", i.e. those same U.S. government officials involved in all that Iran/Contra situation.
The LINK;
http://www.democracynow.org/2013/3/22/new_expos_links_torture_centers_in
IMO, the MICC, i.e. military, industrial, congressional, complex, is "playing war". And I'll never take that back or claim I was miss quoted. . And yes imo the U.S. is in collusion with the Taliban and many others that are identified by the U.S. as the, "allL quiiiieeedahhhh", Taliban", "evil doers" here, there and every where.
Further more, I've been saying this for about five years now anyways i.e. it's my revelation
I'll said it again, "they" the MICC are
"playing war" not fighting it.
Some of my "takeaways" from the show.
Just for starters, So lets say "Steele" and his enterprise controlled a vast underground network. And then there was this other well connected funded etc. underground or "insurgentency" yes, from out side Iraq. Other wise I would ask how many undergrounds do you think we have in Iraq. Realizing its always the "have vs the have not".
Everyone knows the "official revealed facts" make it look like we lost Iraq i.e. the "Iraqis" are in charge, lol, So what, all of Steele's efforts bore no fruit? LOL. II do believe Steele's efforts bore fruit., i.e. the U.S. won the covert espionage war in Iraq. As they "played conventional war", I'll start saying. And NO the CIA was not fighiting the FIS or what ever we here the Russians are calling their CIA equivalent. The CIA were imo fighting any and everyone who thoght they were going to gain any influence in the area, period.
Lets just take these two tactics from my "Fragmented Fighting Facts" in the "Intelligence preparations of the battle field, I.P.B., Area Studies, Net assessments" section. You see imo "Steele" would have used such tactics although with some modifications, i.e. note the flaws in the tactics, I'm bring up.
From Tri-F;
("One time, we planted someone to get kidnapped. A “Nighthunter”
disguised as an NGO worker. We had implanted a tracking device in his body. During his captivity we learned a lot about our enemies. It was
easy to rescue him knowing exactly where he was.")
NJD;
IMO Using, an over the counter “pill” mic or "bug" if you well and having the “nighthunter” lol swallow it and if you constipated him, this might work for 48 hours. However imo most of those kidnapped are moved around i.e. are in continuous transit for the first few days at least, so no valuable intel of the kind suggested here, like what questions are they asking those they kidnap, where are the interrogators etc. And If you think the bug was stapled up into the anus I think any so called terrorist organization worth a dam, is going to check that anus cavity, pretty good now days. lol
And so it was Steele and his enterprise that were throwing all those bodies in the street to be bobby tapped imo by street thugs. You know then U.S. boys on the bomb squad had to go to work.
From Tri-F;
(Equip every patrol with cameras. When fired on, you get a pictures of those doing the firing. Then, a "contract" is put out on those who can be identified. Sponsor a local T.V. program showe POWs who have killed civilians being interrogated. This has been highly effective in Iraq).
NJD;
IMO; But don’t show it on CNN.
From Tri-F
Distinguish between POWs on the basis of motivation, tribe, religion or some other basis that local people will recognize. Then, treat some as “honored guests” and send them home, while continuing to detain others. This can cause suspicions and divisions among our opponents.
NJD;
Where are you at, BBC Arabicia, lol, you don't have any reporters watching these shows in there hotel rooms. LOL.
Before looking at the transcript of the program, lets address this so called "treasure trove" of information brought about by, wekileaks. I said right up front that this was going to be a "disinformation campaign" I believe I was correct.
From Tri-F; In the Psychological Operations: part under Propaganda, in the Planning, section:
("Bigger the leak, less information believed. Illusion that person has discovered information by his own hard work or by
accident").
NJD; now the first rule is based on history, i..e. historically "treasure troves" are extremely rare and most likely not real information, thus your counter part well not buy it. However imo the "sheephood" is. Thus we have all western media playing all this up. However as far as I know Russia, China, etc. are not airing this dirty laundry i.e. using all this info in the wekileaks, against the U.S. at the U.N. are they?
Except for those dam embarrassing telegraphs or cables, lol. You know the once, over wires that imo were and are totally unsecured i.e. any cable can be physically taped. Any wave "rode" i.e. eavesdropped on.
Just a note here;
I had a real veteran of the "American Telephone and Telegraph company" the other day, tell me about just how fu*ked up the system is. She told me that over seas people are getting ten times the speed customers here in the U.S. are. They are paying almost nothing for it. One main reason is the situation here with the Infrastructure she said. To many people own different peaces of the same pie here in the U.S.
Now how could this not be reported by people traveling I thought to myself. And then I realized, most are staying in Five star hotels and don't care about the charges. They would even get service "comped" i.e. given to them for free. And these same 1% fu*ks are paying for and getting the highest i.e. fastest service here in the U.S. so once again they don't notice any difference.
Back to the "disinformation campaign";
I could see how one day some, NSA agent, was pouring over all this info, and made the observation that if some one, thought they had found this by accident, they may think they really have something. Thus the disinformation campaign was born. And its real purpose is to give all these information hunger media corps something to do, LOL.
You see imo all really "top secret" sh*t is still kept on "hard copies" and stored in file cabinets all be them built into walls i.e.behind secret passages.
Update; 04/05/13 17:12 hours. any text below this line has been posted today. And I'll use the "green" highlighting for any changes I make below the embolden text after today. I have deleted some of the transcript and was planing on reorganizing some of it too, thus enabling me to consolidate my comments. However I got tired of it and so some repeat also occurs. But hay, most likely no one well be reading it anyways.
Excerpts from the Transcript of the Democracy now show that aired ;
NJD; I must admit I got tired of this, I'll have to return later to clean it up. I also had this post saved in "draft" form for a few days, thus it's disappearance from my blog. However I did not do anything different or change any settings with my blog, but my image format has once again (now for the third time) changed. I'm talking about how now after a patriot clicks on an image you get the multiple roll of images at the bottom of the post now (once again) as opposed to getting a large single page you have to use the "arrow" with to return to post and then click on another image.
Prove me wrong you coward ass punks.
The Guardian and BBC Arabic details how the U. S. armed and
trained Iraqi death squads that ran torture centers. It is a story that
stretches from the U.S.-backed death squads in Central America during the 1980s
to Bradley Manning.
NJD; my point the
Guardian and BBC Arabic are not unlike CNN or Fox news i.e. they are part of
the system.
Transcript;
"We spent six months trying to track down U.S. soldiers
who served in Samarra," says the film’s executive producer, Maggie O’Kane,
who notes the investigation was sparked by memos found in the Iraq War Logs
released by WikiLeaks. "But many were too frightened because of what
happened to Bradley Manning."
NJD; just a
reminder that imo “wikiLeaks” was a CIA “disinformation” campaign i.e. a
mixture of “true lies”. Bradley may not have known that he was being used.
Remember for all we know he is gay. IMO CIA saw a chance to kill two birds with
one stone i.e. they did not care what happen to him. However, more
importantly, imo they saw him as someone who felt less accepted in the Army,
thus not a career minded person.
Transcript;
Just over a year after the invasion, the U. S. funded a
sectarian police commando force that set up a network of torture centers to
fight the insurgency. It was a decision that helped fuel a sectarian civil war
between Shia and Sunni that ripped the country apart. At its height, it was
claiming 3,000 victims a month.
NJD; imo, at the one year point there was no, insurgency,
any resistance was all locals. And the figure of 3000 victims a month would
mean around 300,000 victims over the entire war. The causality figures of the overall
war given on this program the other day suggested 130, 000 civilians.
Transcript;
Col. James Steele, veteran of America’s war in El Salvador.
He was in charge of the U.S. advisers who trained Salvadoran paramilitary
units. Steele was chosen by the Bush administration to work with General David
Petraeus.
Transcript;
In the 80s David Petraeus, was a 33-year-old major, who visited
El Salvador to study this counterinsurgency campaign. The young Petraeus even
reportedly stayed in Steele’s house while there.
NJD;
And thus, imo, the so called Master who wrote the book on
counterinsurgency (i.e. Petraeus) is really only Steele’s student. IMO Iraq was
Steele’s last time in the field. He is just too old to be in the trenches, even
with the aid of all those “performance enhancing drugs” LOL. And I can hear him
now, when those running things (in this situation Rumsfield) called him with
the Iraqi assignment. “Every time I think I’m out, they drag me back in” LOL this
quote from the “godfather II or III” movie. However, Petraeus wrote the book
and took the handoff from Steele, “she’s all yours kid”.
Transcript;
This is the only known Iraqi video footage of Steele, a shadowy
figure, always in the background, observing, evaluating.
NJD; here we have a good example of the same old B.S.
dramatic, hoop and hype, hyperbole used by the western media. Its filler buster
and not required, if imo your just after the facts. However if you’re out to
persuade peoples opinion, it helps. My point the media involved with this
production are no different than the so called free press they are claiming
missed all this by happenchance.
Transcript;
The man on his left is his collaborator, Colonel James
Coffman. He reported directly to General David Petraeus, who funded this police
commando force from a multibillion-dollar fund.
NJD: and yet another Col. Like the saying about “the best
officer in the ranks is the Col. that never becomes a General. IMO this also
works the other way. Thus just like the reasoning behind the normal
interpretation of this saying i.e. a Col. has served long enough to know the
ropes and has been vetted by the “Flag” officers. Further more the Col. is not
high enough to cause to much of a stir if caught, thus all the talk in the
media when Col North was sacrificed. I recall those in the Media asked, “how a
lonely Col”, could get away with all this. “They” lol imo, all know how it
works with Colonels.
Transcript;
The commandos that Steele let loose came to be mostly made
up of Shia militias, like the Badr Brigades, hungry to take revenge on the
Sunni supporters of Saddam Hussein.
The Iraqi leader of these feared commandos was Adnan Thabit.
In the city of Samarra, his commandos and their American advisers turned the
main library into a detention center, where torture was routine occurrence.
NJD; from
Wikipedia, The people of Samarra belong
to tribes that are believed to be descendents of al-Hussein (son of 'Ali).
While the vast majority of Samarra's native citizens are Sunnis.
So Thabit is described as Sunni and now he is in charge of
Shia militias like the Badr Brigades?
I also wanted to just repeat something here and add a little note too.
Just for starters, So lets say "Steele" and his enterprise controlled a vast underground network. And then there was this other well connected funded etc. underground or "insurgentency" yes, from out side Iraq. Other wise I would ask how many undergrounds do you think we have in Iraq. Realizing its always the "have vs the have not".
So with my question of how many undergrounds do you think we have in Iraq, I just wanted to add that under Saddam imo it was just about impossible to from an under ground, other wise the CIA would have done it and killed him after he "left the reservation" i.e. keeping in mind he was U.S. boy for years!
Transcript;
Joining us now in London from BBC headquarters is Maggie
O’Kane, longtime reporter who’s been named British journalist of the year and
foreign correspondent of the year.
NJD; so the system is rewarding her for bring out all this embarrassing
facts? What is the difference between her and Bradly Manning and Julian Assange?
I’ll answer that one, She is part of the
system.
Maggie O’Kane Well, I think when the WikiLeaks documents
came out in November 2011, I had a sense, and the team that I work with who
have spent a lot of time covering the war in Iraq, that there was a deeper
story here. And one of the things that made us very interested was there was a
reference to a thing called "Frago 242," which was Fragmentary Order
242, which was a U.S. military order instructing U.S. soldiers to ignore
Iraq-on-Iraqi torture.
Now, this incidence, this Frago 242, came up over a thousand
times in the documents.
NJD; a thousand times, man that well get your attention.
Like look at me fallow me. F424om, lol, my Fragmented Fighting Facts, Physiological
warfare;
“Bogus accounts frequently
gain credibility through repetitive reception”.
NARRATOR: Vietnam, the conflict in which over 58,000 U.S.
soldiers died, is where James Steele was first introduced to counterinsurgency.
Steele served in the Vietnam War in the Blackhorse Regiment from 1968 to 1969.
He was described by General George Patton Jr. as the best troop commander in
his regiment.
But if Vietnam shaped his formative military career, it was
in the war against left-wing insurgents in El Salvador that James Steele
secured his reputation as the counterinsurgency specialist. Steele arrived in
El Salvador in 1984 as the leader of the U.S. MilGroup, a group of U.S.
military advisers to the El Salvadoran army.
Todd Greentree got to know James Steele when he was working
in the U.S. embassy in El Salvador at the time.
TODD GREENTREE: Colonel Steele, as the MilGroup commander,
was in charge of all of the special forces teams, the training teams that were
out at the head—the brigade headquarters.
NARRATOR: The U.S. was trying to defeat a guerrilla
insurgency, and American experts trained the Salvadoran security forces in the dark arts of counterinsurgency. Some of
these Salvadoran paramilitary units were effectively death squads.
Celerino Castillo was a U.S. drug enforcement agent who was
involved in training these paramilitaries. He was widely acknowledged for his
efforts. Castillo met James Steele in Salvador.
NJD; the mentioning of the KIA during the Vietnam war is
just more hoop and hype. MilGroup this
would be part of the “country team” i.e. the embassy staff i.e. the espionage
group serving in the CIA. And Mr Greentree would have been part of that team,
no dirt under his nails, LOL. And what about the DRUGS! I mean that all mighty covert
money producing industry, that goes back to the “old silk trade routes”, no
different from “fire water” or “crack” etc.
AMY GOODMAN: The BBC Arabic/Guardian investigation called
Searching for Steele. I wanted to turn right now, in January 2005, Newsweek
magazine reporting the Pentagon considering using what it described as the
"Salvador Option" in Iraq. Shortly after the article’s publication,
investigative journalist Allan Nairn appeared on Democracy Now! His 1984
article in The Progressive magazine, titled "Behind the Death
Squads," exposed the CIA’s backing of El Salvador death squads and led to
an investigation by the Senate Intelligence Committee.
NJD; From my 424 lol Fragmented Fighting Facts, physiological
warfare;
“Transfer association Target is convinced another respected group,
organization or individual agrees with action, idea. Also others within group”.
I’m not going to bother researching if I am correct here.
What I am suggesting is the case is that the mentioning of the article in “Newsweek”
is not written by Mr Nairn, or they fired him because of it because his article
that is mentioned is published in “The Progressive”.
ALLAN NAIRN: In El Salvador, and not just Salvador, but
about three dozen other countries, the U.S. government, in an integrated effort
involving the CIA, the Pentagon and the State Department, backed the creation
of military units that targeted civilian activists. In Salvador, I interviewed
many of the officers involved in running these squads. For example, General
"Chele" Medrano, who was on the CIA payroll, described how they
picked their targets. He said they targeted people who speak—and these are his
words—"against Yankee imperialism, against the oligarchy, against military
men. These people are traitors to the country. What can the troops do? When
they find them, they kill them."
NJD; were can we get a copy of the CIA payroll? And why not
publish that payroll instead of just stating it, the reason is its just hoop
and hype.
Transcript;
Actually, they didn’t always kill them. Often they brought
them to the headquarters of the treasury police, the national guard, the army,
and they tortured them for days. One former member of the Salvadoran treasury
police, René Hurtado, described a course that was given at army general staff
headquarters, where American officers gave instruction in techniques including
electroshock torture. Hurtado himself said he conducted such torture. He
said—these are his words: "You put wires on the prisoner’s vital parts.
You place the wires between the prisoner’s teeth, on the penis, in the vagina.
The prisoners feel it more if their feet are in the water, and they’re seated
on iron, so the blow is stronger. … When it’s over, you just throw him in the
alleys with a sign saying, Mano Blanco, ESA (Secret Anticommunist Army), or
Maximiliano Hernandez Brigade." These are the names of the Salvadoran
death squads.
NJD; I would suggest that any organization this tortured
person was a member of would know who tortured and killed their comrade. And
any signs, would be placed on the bodies to shame the “death squads”. These
signs would imo, be place on the bodies by children.
Transcript;
I was given a chance to see the archives of the Salvadoran
national police, the intelligence archives, and you could see they had files
marked "union," "student," "religious." They
showed me a card file, which included surveillance reports on activists who had
traveled to other countries. These surveillance reports were given to them,
according to the captain who was giving me this tour, by the CIA. The whole
filing system was set up for them by the U.S. Agency for International
Development. ...
NJD; there is nothing unusual about these labels, it’s
always the Unions, religious freaks and most often the educated students
(Iran and Tiananmen Square, being great examples) that rise up. So does
everyone understand that these same groups are being watched and controlled (as
I post) in the U.S. i.e. in our “home land”. Like I also said during the so
called “occupy movements” it was all a campaign to get those “would be”
activist, out of the closet, so the government could identify them. And now that the media has let those issues
fall to the wayside the sheephood that was so fed up is okay with it all know.
No bankers need to go to jail, just give me my MTV and latest sex scandal.
Transcript;
Something on the order of 75,000 Salvadoran civilians were
killed by the Salvadoran military, most of them during the ’70s. And the
majority of these were targeted by these death-squad-type forces. So, one point
is, these were not combatants who were being killed. These were not armed
guerrillas. They were sometimes engaged by the Salvadoran military in combat,
but the death squad operations, which the Pentagon, according to Newsweek, is
now talking about using for Iraq, these went after civilians.
NJD; what, “most in the 70s”, where was all this cutting
edge reporting back then. “Not combatants”, however in Iraq and Afghanistan
this distinction was very important, LOL imo just not defined.
AMY GOODMAN: That was investigative journalist Allan Nairn.
His 1984 article in The Progressive magazine was called "Behind the Death
Squads." It exposed the CIA’s backing of El Salvador death squads and led
to an investigation by the Senate Intelligence Committee.
NJD; “progressive magazine” imo this is a CIA front protect,
to “fill the gap”, if you well, before
imo, the CIA had the kind of control they needed, to let “time” magazine run such “disinformation” articles.
MAGGIE O’KANE: One of the interesting things in the
WikiLeaks documents is that General Adnan Thabit, who ran the special police
commandos that were carrying out the torture, used the phrase "to fight
terror with terror," which is exactly the same phrase that was used by
General Montana phon. in El Salvador when they were operating what was called
the "platforms," which were basically the torture and interrogation
centers. And what you have seen is an almost exact parallel between the
platforms in El Salvador, which were the regional torture centers, and the
platforms in Iraq, which operated in the same way, which was bringing in
hundreds of mostly Sunni men and boys and torturing them for information.
NJD: once again all this under a “Sunni” General, who imo
must have been in service during Saddam Hussein’s days, right?
Transcript;
Now, in between the Salvador operation, we find that James
Steele was involved in Iran-Contra, was one of six key people, along with
Oliver North, that was funneling arms to the Ilopango air base to Nicaragua, to
the Contras there. He then went on and was appointed by Dick Cheney to go to
Panama to set up the police force there after the overthrow of Noriega. And
between that, he goes in and out of the energy business. He’s employed by
Enron. He works for various private military companies. And then he seems to be
called back in at periods of crisis or at periods where they need his
experience. So, in 2004, when the insurgency was gaining strength in Iraq,
there is a call from Steele—to Steele directly from Donald Rumsfeld that he is
to go to Iraq and to get involved in the training of the special police
commandos. And this, we now understand, was to go to Iraq and set up a similar
platform operation.
NJD; goes into the energy business, LOL just like with
Cheney, i.e. what to fu*k did these guys no about the energy business. I know,
but lets all say it now and retain it as we move forward. “It is not what you
know its who you know”.
AMY GOODMAN: We’re speaking with Maggie O’Kane, multimedia
investigations editor at The Guardian. She’s speaking to us from London, voted
best foreign correspondent of the year, as well as British journalist of the
year.
NJD; all the rewards, for what, revealing information that
the U.S. should imo view with the same concerns for national security reasons
as that brought to us by Brady Manning and Julian Assange?
NARRATOR: Samarra was the first place that the connection between
James Steele and the activities of the police commandos was made known to the
outside world. New York Times journalist Peter Maass convinced General Petraeus
to allow him and photographer Gilles Peress to visit the commandos in Samarra.
Their host was James Steele.
NJD; And these reporters took no images of the “ghost” I
mean “host” James Steele. LOL.
GILLES PERESS: What I heard is prisoners screaming all night
long, you know, at which point you have the young U.S. captain telling his
soldiers, "Don’t come near this thing."
NJD; the interrogators must have slept during the daytime.
And the U.S. troops most have not been patrolling or they would have had to
explain to locals, “we’re not going near that place”, call the local police.
Then the local would say that is the police station. And the U.S. personal
would say, what “we are here to bring you democracy”. LOL. Where was that CNN
reporter “weir” during this time?
NARRATOR: Gilles Peress’ stark black-and-white photographs
capture how the commandos worked in Samarra. James Steele crops up in these
photographs repeatedly.
NJD; okay so it i.e. the hoop and hype statement about “this
being the only known video of Steele” is just that hoop and hype. He was not
hiding as that statement would imply, just not caught on video, but lots of
images. How, strange, mysterious, weird, lol, etc. Dose everyone understand now
that all images of all kinds taken by reports would have to be screened before
being released for publication. A very simple task in a completely controlled
environment like a modern battlefield were the U.S. is “playing war”.
PETER MAASS: I was staying at the base in Samarra, an
American base, and I overheard soldiers, American soldiers at this base,
talking about having watched prisoners be kind of strung up like animals after
a hunt over a bar, having watched prisoners be actually tortured.
NJD; dose anyone doubt that this reporter was inside
Air-conditioned quarters or near the officers locations and anyone else in that
area would have been in the command structure? So you think anyone would be
talking real load in that area about anything secret. Maybe if they wanted to
get kicked out, or if they were told too.
PETER MAASS: The interrogation center was the only place in
the kind of mini Green Zone in Samarra that I was not allowed to visit.
However, one day, Jim Steele said to me, "Hey, they just captured a Saudi
jihadi. Would you like to interview him?"
NJD; so you think, they had just brought this Saudi in. And
without knowing what he might say, Jim Steele is going to let this reporter in
to talk to him. LOL. And like how many Rouge Saudi’s are there in this world.
Like a revolutionary Saudi would not have enough work to do in the Kingdom.
GILLES PERESS: Was Steele completely together to bring us
into the library? Maybe not.
NARRATOR: Maass and Peress were about to get an
unprecedented glimpse into this clandestine world.
PETER MAASS: We kind of walk into the entrance area, and the
first thing that I see is one of the Iraqi guards beating up one of the Iraqi
prisoners. And then I’m taken not into the main area, kind of the main hall,
although out the corner of my eye I could see there were a lot of prisoners in
there with their hands tied behind their backs. I was taken to a side office
where the Saudi was brought in, and there was actually blood dripping down the
side of a desk in this office.
GILLES PERESS: We were in a room in the library interviewing
Steele, and I’m looking around. I see blood everywhere, you know.
NJD; so someone must hose the place down from time to time
or soon there would be blood on the chairs the reporter was setting in, I mean
everywhere, on the door handles, dripping from the ceilings etc.
NEIL SMITH: At the time, I just felt like everybody knew and
nobody cared that there was torture going on.
NARRATOR: Army medic Neil Smith remembers just how
frightened Iraqi civilians in Samarra were of the special police commandos.
NEIL SMITH: What was pretty widely known in our battalion,
definitely in our platoon, was that they were pretty violent with their
interrogations, that they would beat people, shock them with, you know,
electrical shock, stab them.
GEN. MUNTADHER AL-SAMARI: [translated] I remember a
14-year-old who was tied to one of the library’s columns. And he was tied up
with his legs above his head, tied up. His whole body was blue because of the
impact of the cables with which he had been beaten.
NARRATOR: Petraeus defended his record with the police
commandos to PBS Frontline’s Martin Smith. He says he was aware of individual
militia members in the commandos, but not militia groups.
GEN. DAVID PETRAEUS: Well, I, again, don’t—I have not
seen—you know, we kept hearing this all the time, Martin, that this or that. To
find the absolute evidence of this has actually been quite difficult.
NJD; why not use some of that electronic eves dropping
equipment we hear so much about.
NARRATOR: But Jerry Burke, who was a senior adviser in
police affairs to the Iraqi Interior Ministry says that Petraeus must have
known that organized Shia militia were dominant in the police commandos.
JERRY BURKE: He had to have known. These things were
discussed openly, whether it was at staff meetings or, you know, before or
after various staff meetings in general conversation. Pretty much the whole
world in Iraq knew that the police commandos were Badr Brigade.
GEN. PETER PACE: It is absolutely the responsibility of
every U.S. servicemember, if they see inhumane treatment being conducted, to
intervene, to stop it.
SECRETARY OF DEFENSE DONALD RUMSFELD: But I don’t think you
mean they have an obligation to physically stop it; it’s to report it.
GEN. PETER PACE: If they are physically present when
inhumane treatment is taking place, sir, they have an obligation to try to stop
it.
NARRATOR: The publication by WikiLeaks of thousands of
diplomatic cables show that by July 2005 the U.S. embassy in Baghdad was
telling Washington about the abuse being committed by the commandos. We also
learned that Adnan Thabit was a guest at the American embassy in Baghdad. He
met the U.S. ambassador for counterterrorism and talked about his approach to
policing. This is an extract from what he’s reported to have said.
CABLE EXTRACT: "Summary: Fight Terror with Terror. ...
Major General Thabit, who created and commands the Special Police Forces, is a
Sunni officer who served time in prison for attempting to overthrow the Saddam
Regime. ... They expressed the view that it’s necessary to fight terror with
terror and that it is critical that their forces be respected and feared as
this was what was required in Iraqi Society to command authority."
NJD; so is this the cable (i.e. the fact) of what he said,
who put this cable together and “reported” what he said. Anyone want to know
how the general’s comments were recorded? And imo anyone arrested during
Saddam’s reign with any kind of evidence against you what so ever, never saw
the light of day again. Especially a general. Saddam would not have wanted the
officer corps to think they were above his law right? So imo his arrest was one
of those situation were those running things needed to talk to him privately,
thus bring him in.
NARRATOR: But there are indications that the U.S. government
knew what the commandos were doing.
CABLE EXTRACT: "...we remain troubled by the
indications that at times units commanded by Thabit cross the line."
NJD; code phrase used here, but not with other cable
messages?
NARRATOR: Despite these concerns, Adnan Thabit remained
officially in charge until the middle of 2006. He told us that the American
officials he dealt with were aware of what his men were doing.
GEN. ADNAN THABIT: [translated] Until I left, the Americans
knew about everything I did. They knew what was going on in the interrogations,
and they knew the detainees. And even some of the intelligence about the
detainees came to us from them. They are lying.
NJD; so much Intel, and especially on Saddam’s military, yet
the military as a whole and the civil workers under Saddam’s reign ALL had to
go.
Transcript;
Maggie, I wanted to get your response to the Pentagon
response. While the former Army Colonel Jim Steele and the former Secretary of
Defense Donald Rumsfeld refused to talk to your newspaper, The Guardian, the
Pentagon did issue a response after your report was published. Colonel Jack
Miller, a Pentagon spokesman, told The Guardian, quote, "Obviously we have
seen the reports and we are currently looking into the situation. As you know
the issue surrounding accusation of abuse and torture of Iraqi detainees is a
complex one that is full of history and emotion. It will take time to work a
thorough response."
MAGGIE O’KANE: Well, I mean, we’re still waiting. And we
know, unofficially, from sources within the Pentagon, that they’re—to quote one
high-ranking military officer, he said to us, "The difficulty is that
those guys were wearing the same uniform that we’re wearing now." So I
think the Pentagon is in a very difficult position. And we await to hear what
they’ve got to say. We have heard nothing from James Steele. We’ve heard
nothing from Donald Rumsfeld.
NJD; LOL, the pentagon “blind sided”, they had no idea who was
were reporting what in Iraq. LOL.
Transcript;
We also know that CENTCOM, immediately after the film was
broadcast on BBC Arabic, set up a monitoring unit within CENTCOM to see what
the response has been among the Arab population. We know also that there were
public screenings of the film in Samarra, in which people came out onto a
square to watch the film, which, in a sense, is a sort of acknowledgment of
what happened to the male population of that time. But so far, the Pentagon has
said nothing.
NJD; from my Fragmented Fighting Facts, Psychological
warfare;
Joke; best weapon the CIA had against the KGB was the VCR.
Use rallies, entertainment centers, stage productions, puppets, drawings in the
ground, scaled models. Gifts know present and historical meaning of items.
Symbols selection based on target analysis in terms of targets view of reality
rather than what propagandist views as reality. The target audience interprets
message based on previous experiences and learned responses. Therefore it is
necessary to understand these experiences.
Transcript;
I mean, one of the interesting things I find is that the
interest in this in Europe, for example, is huge. I mean, 14 countries have—are
showing the film over the next 10 days and have bought it. But actually, within
the America mainstream television networks, there’s been very little response,
and also very little response from the American mainstream media. So I presume
they’re just going to try and ignore it. And except for what your program has
done, and also Real TV, it seems to have been played down.
NJD; the U.S. sheephood, ignores the wars all together. Only
like, 3 million or so U.S. citizens vote.
AMY GOODMAN: So, you’re saying that U.S. Central Command,
they’re monitoring reaction to this all over the world. And in the United
States, the commercial networks, they did not option this film, this
documentary, play it, especially at this time, on this 10th anniversary of the
invasion of Iraq.
MAGGIE O’KANE: Well, Amy, it wouldn’t have happened if it
wasn’t for the WikiLeaks document, because so many things are about deniability
and distancing and not taking responsibility. And El Salvador is a classic
example. You can push away with a distance, and you can put a layer of, you
know, the local police forces in between your actions, and there’s always been
plausible deniability. What WikiLeaks gave us was a clear indication from the
U.S. State Department that they knew what was—they knew what was going on. And
it was that bedrock, and also the information from Frago 242 that officially
there was an order to ignore torture, that, you know, give journalists like me
and other investigative journalists the basis of something to work on,
something that actually can’t be denied, because it’s there in black and white.
And that is an extraordinarily valuable tool for an investigative journalism.
And you wouldn’t be seeing this film, we wouldn’t be looking back at El
Salvador, if it hadn’t been for WikiLeaks.
NJD; and like I said the Russians, Chinense, etc can’t make
heads or tails out of this wikiLeaks? No airing of the dirty laundry at the
U.N.
AMY GOODMAN: Maggie, I wanted to turn to another clip. The
U.S.-backed police commandos are also accused of evolving into a Shia death
squad targeting Sunnis. I want to return to your film.
JERRY BURKE: It became very obvious that this was criminal
activity by the special commandos. They were eliminating their own opposition
and terrorizing citizens from the Sunni community. We lost the support of a lot
of Iraqi citizens who became very cynical and very anti-American. Even the ones
who were friendly with us couldn’t understand why we were allowing this to
happen.
NJD; So the great master of counter terrorism lost control
of the commandos. Dam, it I hate it when that happens.
NARRATOR: But Donald Rumsfeld should have known about the
death squad activities. James Steele had written to Rumsfeld six weeks earlier
warning him that the police commandos, armed and financed by the U.S., were
effectively a Shia militia engaged in death squad activities.
NJD; If that written message exist and no one in any of
these free press media corps dose anything to put Rummy the dummy away for all
his war crimes. I say that is prove enough for me, that this is all B.S. i.e.
you take us to the edge of the cliff (give us the so called “actual kings
truth”) and stand there enjoying the view, (waiting for someone else to try and
do something about it) without throwing anyone over. Boy this nation has come a
long ways from the Nixon era, LOL, NOT!
MEMO TO DON RUMSFELD: "MEMO TO DON RUMSFELD
“FROM JIM STEELE
"...thugs like the commander of the Wolf Brigade who
has been involved in death squad activities, extortion of detainees and a
general pattern of corruption. ... Nearly all of the new recruits within the
commandos are Shia. Many of them are Badr members."
NJD: So anyone think they can make the case in court. Any
supreme court justice, think “they” should take it upon themselves to bring the
case? A real “unprecedented case” LOL.
AMY GOODMAN: Maggie O’Kane, talk more about what you have
found here.
MAGGIE O’KANE: Well, I think what’s very important to
understand here is that there was a creation of the special police commandos,
which began in 2004, and over the period of the next year, they developed into
a force that was nearly 12,000 strong, which had been armed by the Americans,
had been—was being advised by them, and included this network of torture
platforms. Then you had another step, which was, in June 2005, you had a highly
sectarian Shia minister taking over in the Ministry of the Interior. And
basically this force now was handed over also to his control, and it began a
full-scale war on the Sunni community, which involved large-scale death squad
activity.
Now, before this was—this was building up, Steele left in
September 2004. Some of the other advisers stayed. And then, despite the
warnings of many within the Iraqi political establishment, who said, "Do
not hand this force over to the control of Jabr," it was allowed to happen.
So, again, this brought the killing onto a new scale. Our information is that
while Steele was organizing the platform of torture centers, there was not
wide-scale death squad activity. That took place after 2005, when, effectively,
the special police commandos were handed over to Jabr Solagh. And then hell
broke out in Iraq. Through 2005 and 2006, there was a civil war, a sectarian
civil war, in which as many as 3,000 bodies a month were turning up in the
streets of Iraq.
AMY GOODMAN: A central figure in your investigation is a
former Iraqi general who spoke out for the first time in your film about Army
Colonel Jim Steele and the U.S.-backed torture program.
NARRATOR: General Muntadher al-Samari is a former general in
the Iraqi army. After the invasion, he worked with the Americans to rebuild the
police force. But Muntadher was very disturbed by the abuse and torture he
witnessed being committed by the police commandos. He tried, on a number of
occasions, to stop it. He has never spoken before about the part the U.S.
played in running the special police commandos.
GEN. MUNTADHER AL-SAMARI: [translated] The Ministry of
Interior had 14 to 15 prisons. They were secret, never declared. But the
American top brass and the Iraqi leadership knew all about these prisons, the
things that went on there—drilling, murder, torture—the ugliest sorts of
torture I’ve ever seen.
But we understand that Steele was sent to Iraq by Donald
Rumsfeld, and we understand that because Donald Rumsfeld actually writes to
George Bush in September 2004 and tells him about sending James Steele to Iraq.
MAGGIE O’KANE: And the other thing that surprised me about
it is that somehow in the kind of fog of war, that we never, as journalists,
never really seem to reach the—to report it in a way that people could really
understand what was happening there. There were reports. It was called
"The Way of the Commandos." There were reports that torture was going
on, but somehow it never penetrated, or it was never sort of acknowledged that
that’s the way the war was being conducted.
And I think one of the things, the great things, that I have
learned from this is that we’re very—we’re very easy with words like
"human intelligence," "counterinsurgency," and that we
don’t really understand that this is about systematic and brutal torture that
has repercussions among the civilian population.
And also that there was one man whose history goes back
through so many of America’s wars. And I think it’s indicative of a very
dysfunctional, brutal time, that I hope this film will be a legacy that
actually says, if you want to go to war, this is what war means. It means
14-year-old boys being hung up and tortured. It means men being turned on
spits. And that’s called "counterinsurgency."
BRADLEY MANNING: I believed that if the general public,
especially the American public, had access to the information contained within
the CIDNE-I and CIDNE-A tables, this could spark a domestic debate on the role
of the military and our foreign policy in general, as well as it related to
Iraq and Afghanistan.
AMY GOODMAN: Bradley Manning says he released these
documents to open up a debate. Very interesting, as he remains behind bars
facing decades in prison. Maggie O’Kane, you were talking about the information
that was released, on which you built your report, having so much difficulty
getting into the United States corporate media, though you’re getting it
everywhere else all over the world.
G-day!
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